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QuaketallicA

Doom Eternal II (aka Shadow Warrior 3) Rules!

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Does this perhaps belong in the "Other" category? Maybe. But since the game is so inspired by Doom Eternal, I feel here is right at home. Just tried it out a day or two ago, and it is every bit as awesome as the trailers made it out to be. Admittedly, I have not played the other rebooted Shadow Warrior games, but the new iteration of Lo Wang in SW3 is imo the funniest one yet. He really feels like Duke Nukem meets Doom Eternal with gorgeous oriental aesthetics. Got some Titanfall-esque wall-running too.

 

Probably one of the best shooters, in terms of pure fun factor, compared to anything else out there. It is to DE what Duke3D was to original Doom, in my opinion.

 

Have you guys tried it yet? How do you feel it compares to Eternal?

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First one was great.  Second one I never finished.  However after looking at the third one I can't get past how stupid the demons look.  Ill pass

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The game gets a lot of hate and I don't honestly get why, it's fine. It is a fun game, I liked it at least as much as the first one. The second one however I had no interest in because loot and randomly generated maps are about as far away as my thing in an FPS as you can get. 

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I played all three, and while Shadow Warrior 3 get better with the last update, they hurt the reviews with the 4 hrs Campaign (you can replay it, and even better with the new plus mode). 

 

They hurt something with the focus of the story but they already go off the rails with the 2, and it's great that Long Wang still is young and naive, I really prefer that version of him instead of the old Wang.

 

It's better in gameplay than 1 and 2 Shadow Warrior. While the 1 feels a lot like Doom 2016, it's more focus on Combos with magic and weapons for DPS, and the 2 it's look for the load out perfect for the mission with RNG stuff, this one feels like Eternal, balance in movement low ammo weapon's and the style of glory kills to get weapon's it's the better choice.

 

And I trink Shadow Warrior 2 it's better than the 1 but that's for steam forums.

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Ah, I wondered when somebody would bring this up. I played all 4 SW games, including the 1997 one. But regarding the reboot series:

 

SW1 - run-out-the-mill gameplay, but suprisingly strong and complex story for a shooter. The final scene in particular felt almost like something taken from Final Fantasy series.

 

SW2 - slaughter-tilted gameplay, much weaker story. Second half got repetitive, in part because it re-used the same maps for different missions. But I played it after Mario Doom Eternal and I loved it, particularly that explosive weapons can actually kill several mid-tier monsters at once when properly upgraded. And of course you tried to make as many combos as you could to keep the Chi rush going as long as possible. I also learned that apparently motorbikes, air conditioners, ATMs, vending machines and other appliances were dangerous explosive gadgets back in 1980s japanese cities. Too bad the weapon upgrade interface was boring and repetitive exercise, with unpredictable results. And better upgrades required farming certain orbs, which became old quickly. Still, it's most engaging and my favorite game among the reboots. Hail to the rocket launcher!!

 

SW3 - obvious DE knockoff as noted, but it wasn't nearly as overcomplicated tedious chore as DE. The "natural hazards" in some arenas were amusing and most of the special weapons were actually useful and devastating. Even the platforming sections flowed better and were more intuitive and forgiving than in DE. The downside is absolutely ridiculous plot, which includes the bosses and mini-bosses. I think they killed the series because of that.

 

One common thing I don't like about the reboots are Lo Wang's and Hoji's voice actors, they sound like retards even during the "serious" scenes. Quite a departure from the "old, wise and psycho" warrior persona of the 1997 original.

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On 6/30/2023 at 4:14 AM, QuaketallicA said:

Probably one of the best shooters, in terms of pure fun factor, compared to anything else out there. It is to DE what Duke3D was to original Doom, in my opinion.

 

Have you guys tried it yet? How do you feel it compares to Eternal?

 

Metal Hellsinger is also awesome. A modern Doom Like in a Rythm way, this is a good Fast FPS, just try it members, but the solo is too short as a defect.

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On 7/28/2023 at 1:04 PM, Caleb13 said:

 

One common thing I don't like about the reboots are Lo Wang's and Hoji's voice actors, they sound like retards even during the "serious" scenes. Quite a departure from the "old, wise and psycho" warrior persona of the 1997 original.

 

Yes, such old, wise lines in the original like,

 

"You wanna wash Wang? Or you want to watch Wang wash Wang?"

and

"Man who buy drowned cat pay for wet pussy."

 

Lo Wang was always quite silly. He's just the Asian Duke.

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I guess it's because of the different kind of sillyness: Old Wang is race based humor while new Wang has what people call "MCU writing".

They probably reflect the eras and environments each game was made on.

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